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	<title>Comments on: The theme formerly known as Gummy</title>
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		<title>By: openSUSE 10.3 almost ready at Aaron Bockover</title>
		<link>http://blog.barisione.org/2007-09/the-theme-formerly-known-as-gummy/comment-page-1/#comment-1219</link>
		<dc:creator>openSUSE 10.3 almost ready at Aaron Bockover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Anyway, here is Gummy Gilouche! It&#8217;s featured in the screenshot above, so click it for a better preview. I disabled the gradients that are drawn on the tabs. If you want to enable or disable certain things in Clearlooks or this Gilouche derivative, see Marco Barisione&#8217;s post for details. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Anyway, here is Gummy Gilouche! It&#8217;s featured in the screenshot above, so click it for a better preview. I disabled the gradients that are drawn on the tabs. If you want to enable or disable certain things in Clearlooks or this Gilouche derivative, see Marco Barisione&#8217;s post for details. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ajgenius</title>
		<link>http://blog.barisione.org/2007-09/the-theme-formerly-known-as-gummy/comment-page-1/#comment-1212</link>
		<dc:creator>ajgenius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.barisione.org/blog.html/p=105#comment-1212</guid>
		<description>Just FYI. That Evolution toolbar bug has been there for a very very very long time. Evo doesn't use a normal toolbar button, or follow normal toolbar practices for their custom widget. 

And this isn't the first time it has been reported, and not fixed. Smooth themes with gradient toolbars have had this problem for 3+ years now. IIRC there was a custom patch that fixed it once, maybe 2 years ago, yet here we are.. Same problem.

While this _should_ be an important fix history has shown the evo people just don't seem to care, and I cannot fathom it. It is one reason why most Smooth themes from Glider on finally just gave up using gradient toolbars. And is the sort of problem with strange apathy in the gnome development community which led me to give up on theming and theme engines entirely. YEARS for a highly visible bugfix?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just FYI. That Evolution toolbar bug has been there for a very very very long time. Evo doesn&#8217;t use a normal toolbar button, or follow normal toolbar practices for their custom widget. </p>
<p>And this isn&#8217;t the first time it has been reported, and not fixed. Smooth themes with gradient toolbars have had this problem for 3+ years now. IIRC there was a custom patch that fixed it once, maybe 2 years ago, yet here we are.. Same problem.</p>
<p>While this _should_ be an important fix history has shown the evo people just don&#8217;t seem to care, and I cannot fathom it. It is one reason why most Smooth themes from Glider on finally just gave up using gradient toolbars. And is the sort of problem with strange apathy in the gnome development community which led me to give up on theming and theme engines entirely. YEARS for a highly visible bugfix?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Zajic</title>
		<link>http://blog.barisione.org/2007-09/the-theme-formerly-known-as-gummy/comment-page-1/#comment-1211</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Zajic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wouldn't have any idea where I should start looking/debugging if my window borders turned pink all of a sudden, would you? :-/ See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478886 for details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wouldn&#8217;t have any idea where I should start looking/debugging if my window borders turned pink all of a sudden, would you? :-/ See <a href="http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478886" rel="nofollow">http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478886</a> for details.</p>
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		<title>By: ReinoutS</title>
		<link>http://blog.barisione.org/2007-09/the-theme-formerly-known-as-gummy/comment-page-1/#comment-1210</link>
		<dc:creator>ReinoutS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the "Java like" tabs derogating comments pretty funny. (I like them, but that's not the point.) What they mean is of course the Metal look &amp; feel. However in Sun Java releases from the past year or two, you can enable the GTK+ look &amp; feel which simply uses whatever GTK theme engine you happen to have to theme its widgets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the &#8220;Java like&#8221; tabs derogating comments pretty funny. (I like them, but that&#8217;s not the point.) What they mean is of course the Metal look &amp; feel. However in Sun Java releases from the past year or two, you can enable the GTK+ look &amp; feel which simply uses whatever GTK theme engine you happen to have to theme its widgets!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Walton</title>
		<link>http://blog.barisione.org/2007-09/the-theme-formerly-known-as-gummy/comment-page-1/#comment-1209</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrea: your work is appreciated of course, but that doesn't mean we can't say we don't care for it.

As for the Evolution toolbar drawing bug, fair enough that's not your fault, but GNOME release team are supposed to make sure things like new themes work with the GNOME desktop apps properly, aren't they?

That said, I shouldn't criticise too much with my extremely minimal involvement in the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrea: your work is appreciated of course, but that doesn&#8217;t mean we can&#8217;t say we don&#8217;t care for it.</p>
<p>As for the Evolution toolbar drawing bug, fair enough that&#8217;s not your fault, but GNOME release team are supposed to make sure things like new themes work with the GNOME desktop apps properly, aren&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>That said, I shouldn&#8217;t criticise too much with my extremely minimal involvement in the project.</p>
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		<title>By: Gnome 2.20: considerazioni e richieste &#171; Daniele</title>
		<link>http://blog.barisione.org/2007-09/the-theme-formerly-known-as-gummy/comment-page-1/#comment-1208</link>
		<dc:creator>Gnome 2.20: considerazioni e richieste &#171; Daniele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] la possibilità di gestire tramite una semplice interfaccia alcuni aspetti del tema grafico (es. l&#8217;animazione della barra, lo stile delle barre degli strumenti - esempio); [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] la possibilità di gestire tramite una semplice interfaccia alcuni aspetti del tema grafico (es. l&#8217;animazione della barra, lo stile delle barre degli strumenti - esempio); [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea "Cimi" Cimitan</title>
		<link>http://blog.barisione.org/2007-09/the-theme-formerly-known-as-gummy/comment-page-1/#comment-1207</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea "Cimi" Cimitan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys, here's the Author.
I'm glad to receive positive feedbacks, when you write in your free time and you're not payed a "thanks" is just what we need to read.
It's important for me, really. Otherwise I can just run out with other projects.

scrollbars:
they were designed to look more visible, as we (gnome artwork team) decided that it is important to have a fast notice of the scrollbar position, for example in firefox/gedit, office documents etc etc. They give also the feeling that "hey lclick me there's something below!"
As OsX for example (blue scrollbars, loved by thousands of men)
tabs:
About padding... no fixes IMHO. And is is indepentend to the theme (see Crux or other syles)
toolbar:
Yes I know, with 3 toolbars and a listview they're not wonderful, but use them everyday with gedit, rhythmbox, firefox, epiphany, evolution, eog, evince etc etc etc and you will notice the great improvement in visibility... And yes, I love them.
"new" button is an Evolution bug... not a problem of mine. I've filed in the bugzilla 3 months ago but not fixed by anyone.
3d-ish critics:
Is this a church like "vi vs Emacs?" Probably, but Jimmac you can use ClearlooksClassic if you don't like these, or try the -flat- Inverted.
It's just useless to rant about tastes, the important thing is to give the user the FREEDOM to change what he wants, to use a flat theme, if he prefer. You can use Classic if you like, but don't criticize my _free_ work. Probably you're payed by Novell for your job, mines is for the love to freedom and opensource, and trust me there's nothing _worst_ than receive _awful_ words about your (mines) (i repeat) _FREE_ contribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, here&#8217;s the Author.<br />
I&#8217;m glad to receive positive feedbacks, when you write in your free time and you&#8217;re not payed a &#8220;thanks&#8221; is just what we need to read.<br />
It&#8217;s important for me, really. Otherwise I can just run out with other projects.</p>
<p>scrollbars:<br />
they were designed to look more visible, as we (gnome artwork team) decided that it is important to have a fast notice of the scrollbar position, for example in firefox/gedit, office documents etc etc. They give also the feeling that &#8220;hey lclick me there&#8217;s something below!&#8221;<br />
As OsX for example (blue scrollbars, loved by thousands of men)<br />
tabs:<br />
About padding&#8230; no fixes IMHO. And is is indepentend to the theme (see Crux or other syles)<br />
toolbar:<br />
Yes I know, with 3 toolbars and a listview they&#8217;re not wonderful, but use them everyday with gedit, rhythmbox, firefox, epiphany, evolution, eog, evince etc etc etc and you will notice the great improvement in visibility&#8230; And yes, I love them.<br />
&#8220;new&#8221; button is an Evolution bug&#8230; not a problem of mine. I&#8217;ve filed in the bugzilla 3 months ago but not fixed by anyone.<br />
3d-ish critics:<br />
Is this a church like &#8220;vi vs Emacs?&#8221; Probably, but Jimmac you can use ClearlooksClassic if you don&#8217;t like these, or try the -flat- Inverted.<br />
It&#8217;s just useless to rant about tastes, the important thing is to give the user the FREEDOM to change what he wants, to use a flat theme, if he prefer. You can use Classic if you like, but don&#8217;t criticize my _free_ work. Probably you&#8217;re payed by Novell for your job, mines is for the love to freedom and opensource, and trust me there&#8217;s nothing _worst_ than receive _awful_ words about your (mines) (i repeat) _FREE_ contribution.</p>
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		<title>By: GTK2 Engines 2.12 per Ubuntu Feisty + Clearlooks Unofficial [pollyrepo] &#171; pollycoke :)</title>
		<link>http://blog.barisione.org/2007-09/the-theme-formerly-known-as-gummy/comment-page-1/#comment-1205</link>
		<dc:creator>GTK2 Engines 2.12 per Ubuntu Feisty + Clearlooks Unofficial [pollyrepo] &#171; pollycoke :)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Marco Barisione ha scritto un post molto equilibrato e neutro, in cui mette a confronto alcune immagini del vecchio e il nuovo stile, e indica che ci solo alcune caratteristiche che lui probabilmente disabiliterà. Intanto le due immagini preparate da Marco a confronto: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Marco Barisione ha scritto un post molto equilibrato e neutro, in cui mette a confronto alcune immagini del vecchio e il nuovo stile, e indica che ci solo alcune caratteristiche che lui probabilmente disabiliterà. Intanto le due immagini preparate da Marco a confronto: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Walton</title>
		<link>http://blog.barisione.org/2007-09/the-theme-formerly-known-as-gummy/comment-page-1/#comment-1203</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case anybody else finds it as irritating as me that the menus seem to be sliced off at the top and bottom, you can add some padding by sticking

GtkMenu::vertical-padding = 3

in your custom style based on clearlooks-default. Adjust the number to taste, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case anybody else finds it as irritating as me that the menus seem to be sliced off at the top and bottom, you can add some padding by sticking</p>
<p>GtkMenu::vertical-padding = 3</p>
<p>in your custom style based on clearlooks-default. Adjust the number to taste, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Duquette</title>
		<link>http://blog.barisione.org/2007-09/the-theme-formerly-known-as-gummy/comment-page-1/#comment-1202</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Duquette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually like the new theme a lot, good work! I find it funny every commenter here doesn't like a different aspect of the theme, but as a whole thinks it's good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually like the new theme a lot, good work! I find it funny every commenter here doesn&#8217;t like a different aspect of the theme, but as a whole thinks it&#8217;s good.</p>
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